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to argue or not to…

June 26, 2007
It’s been a year na nagstop ako sending forwarded messages to my groups, and it talks about my belief. Lately, one of my college friends and ygroup member gave his opinion regarding with my signature message in my e-mail.
 Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -EPICURUS-

And the debate started.

He pointed out to me that he was offended by that statement and it ridiculed his belief and also his God. So, he gave me a lot of points. I gave mine. And the argument started.

In every mails that I received from him, he was clearly pointing me out that he was really offended by that statement. For me, as I’ve said before and mailed it to him, I don’t understand why? It’s only a question and he need not to point his side to me (somehow, i liked it). If that statement ridiculed his belief, he was just missing the real thing. Come to think of it, that statement derives from the holy book of bible: “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7 of KJV), so the philosopher Epicurus gave his meaningful question. And for me, an Omniscient, Omnipotent being and a loving father will not create evil in his paradise with whom his loving children lives. If His children prays and asks for His security from evil, wouldn’t that be harsh and ‘papansin’ description of God? Gagawa-gawa siya ng kasamaan tapos gusto niya magdasal sa kanya ang tao.

Well anyways, I am still working for my response and I’m kinda busy with some mails I am receiving… I guess tonight I will be sending my response to him.

And I’m not looking for any fight with him, it’s a healthy conversation and I think we are enjoying… Learning I guess….


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from my previous blog:

Anonymous said…

hahaha..now im getting so into your blogs.. im starting to look forward of meeting you or a deeper “healthy conversation”…

jepp said…

arggghhh no idea.. hu are you? waaaaahhhhhhh

Anonymous said…

hu am i? naku. d ko dn lam eh…hahahaha…catholic kb? i min, do u hav a religion?

jepp said…

yeahp, catholic..

Anonymous said…

so how is your ‘praying time’? Do you talk to God or even bother to do it?

jepp said…

don’t you understand? manong rai borrow ko muna ung word mo.. I’m an ‘ex-religionist’ and I dont pray. I already know the pointlessness of it so why should I bother? uu, catholic ako pero it’s only a word to write it in on some data kasi pag wala akong linagay na religion malamang mappraning ang mga tao sa pilipinas..

Anonymous said…

ah..so, y bother to think bout the opinions of other people if u dont write anything? Well, for one thing, it’s you. It is who you are — an ‘ex-religionist’. ryt? better to write nothing instead of writing without the ‘heart’ of being one. Its useless. its pointless (as u sed), so y bother to write it?:)

jepp said…

di mo na naman ako naintindihan.. ok, pag hindi ko linagay tatanungin ako pag sinabi ko namang wala marami pang susunod na tanong.. Ang pilipinas kasi napakarelihiyoso hindi sila open sa mga paniniwalang tulad ng sa akin.. alam mo discreet kami sa bagay ng paniniwala namin at hindi namin isinisigaw sa mundo kung ano kami kasi malamang baka mapatay pa kami.. (marami na pong namatay na nilalang dahil sa walang paniniwala.. sinunog at kung ano ano pa.) hindi naman issue sa amin kung isusulat namin sa isang papel ung religion namin eh, kasi un naman tlga ung religion ko eh the only problem is dumarating ang panahon na nagiiba ung paniniwala at hindi ko naman pwede idis-regard un eh — hello? asa Philippines tayo.. may concern naman kami sa sarili naming buhay kaya okay lang na isulat.. mas okay pang isulat un kesa mamatay ako sa kamay ng mga believers of God.. at saka sa bansa natin pinapahalagahan ang pagiging relihiyoso sa lahat ng galaw dito kailangan.. di ba? magkakaroon pa ng discrimination.. Unfair db? You know, I would like to know you but it seems na you dont want to.. parang laro lang sayo ito na gusto ko malaman ang name mo at ayaw mo.. okay lang..

Anonymous said…

ah…gnun bah..heheh gets… pro im a catholic and a Christian.. My religion is catholic. But i follow God, which is Christians’ definition. Well, i mean, ibang iba..but dont see me as i am spending life na tipong palarosaryo. Yep, we pray in rosary. But my relationship is more of what people (specifically, filipinos) think or know. This is not a game or anything. Its just that i just want you to know God, or at least give Him a shot of letting Him be known by you.

from what skul r u?

jepp said…

hehe… now you’re asking from what school i am.. daya mo ha!! may I know your name? kilala ba kita? or kilala mo ba ako? hmmmmm.. i’ll answer your thoughts about letting Him know me if you answer my question first.. who are you? siguro naman maganda ung name mo kaysa sa name na ‘anonymous’ db?

Anonymous said…

ian..from wat skul r u?

jepp said…

ohhhh ok hindi nga kita kilala.. from perps LP..so I guess alam mo na nakagraduate na ako.. thanks ian.. funny thing is my second name is ian.. hindi kaya, never mind……

Anonymous said…

wat?

Posted by jepjep at September 6, 2007, 3:39 pm

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